tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post822549374390426067..comments2024-03-15T01:11:32.832-07:00Comments on Bardiac: Sacraments on Stage?Bardiachttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11846065504793800266noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post-4011299626499290552008-11-29T13:47:00.000-08:002008-11-29T13:47:00.000-08:00Nosey question: Were you at a religious school?Nosey question: Were you at a religious school?Midwife with a Knifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04309579302399381913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post-34649224320513684242008-11-26T05:37:00.000-08:002008-11-26T05:37:00.000-08:00Flavia is part right: midwives are supposed to be ...Flavia is part right: midwives are supposed to be licensed by the bishop. When unmarried women give birth, the midwives are clearly acting as agents of authority to get the women to name the father (and a one whose identity they believe -- you'd been seen with him etc.) <BR/><BR/>I'm pretty sure that not all midwives are licensed, and the process is less about being "employed" by the church as being vetted by the church. <BR/>Once you get rid of limbo, in theory you don't need the midwive to baptise. And there is great concern about midwives bewitching babies.Susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09716705206734059708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post-9342221331229811352008-11-25T19:20:00.000-08:002008-11-25T19:20:00.000-08:00Clearly, I need to read Chaste Maid again, perhaps...Clearly, I need to read <I>Chaste Maid</I> again, perhaps for more reasons than one.Fretful Porpentinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11165078003123517013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post-22195474030234976962008-11-25T19:15:00.000-08:002008-11-25T19:15:00.000-08:00Nah: Chaste Maid happens right after the christeni...Nah: <I>Chaste Maid</I> happens right after the christening; all church-action is off-stage. But you do get plenty of drunk puritans, which is the real bonus of that play. <BR/><BR/>Actually, there are lots of bonuses in <I>Chaste Maid</I>, only one of which involves drunk puritans.jwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10220253409908482479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post-32216228381888188222008-11-25T18:19:00.000-08:002008-11-25T18:19:00.000-08:00Hmm, there's definitely a baptism in A Chaste Maid...Hmm, there's definitely a baptism in <I>A Chaste Maid in Cheapside</I>, but I can't remember whether it takes place on or off stage. (Also, if I remember correctly, it is a Puritan baptism, which may or may not have counted as far as the Church of England was concerned.)Fretful Porpentinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11165078003123517013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post-83315989235514402162008-11-25T17:20:00.000-08:002008-11-25T17:20:00.000-08:00But marriages get staged, and those would count as...But marriages get staged, and those would count as a sacrament, no? Perhaps it was something more specifically about the eucharist?<BR/><BR/>And what year is The Renegado from? (I've never heard of it, but that means nothing) It could very well pre or post-date a law about the sacraments and theater.Sisyphushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09880634753539329199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post-28608003543540458742008-11-25T13:16:00.000-08:002008-11-25T13:16:00.000-08:00I just did a 10-second search on this and didn't c...I just did a 10-second search on this and didn't come up with the hard-and-fast rules, but I did find something that is helpful. If the theater was outside the city of London, then censorship rules might not have been fully unenforceable. <BR/><BR/>I don't know about sacraments being staged, per se, but I thought that Christian God(s) (God, Jesus, and holy spirit, not to mention saints) weren't supposed to be staged after the Act of Common Council in 1574. I could be off... but I think that law is why, in the latter 16th century, the stage gets less Christian focused. (I mean, besides the rise of humanism, etc.)Fie upon this quiet life!https://www.blogger.com/profile/12047096700049201873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post-591197104354401772008-11-25T12:49:00.000-08:002008-11-25T12:49:00.000-08:00I just heard a paper about midwifery in the 16th a...I just heard a paper about midwifery in the 16th and 17th Cs, which maintained that after the Reformation, midwifes were employed more or less in the service of the church, to root out Catholicism, etc.--and I believe they were authorized to perform at least emergency baptisms, right?<BR/><BR/>Don't know nothin' about no drama stuff, though.Flaviahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17832765671541392835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post-38105952981991673452008-11-25T09:12:00.000-08:002008-11-25T09:12:00.000-08:00THe midwife baptism thing is popularly assumed to ...THe midwife baptism thing is popularly assumed to be effective, even if the theologians don't agree.<BR/><BR/>I'd never heard the rules about the stage though.Susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09716705206734059708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post-15106879200115674972008-11-25T07:53:00.000-08:002008-11-25T07:53:00.000-08:00I'm doing some semi-related research right now. Tw...I'm doing some semi-related research right now. Two plays that are on my list to check are Peele's "Edward I" and Shirley's "The Travels of the Three English Brothers." Had I time enough between now and, well, two days ago, I would look them over myself and report.jwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10220253409908482479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post-15801959871547897552008-11-25T07:28:00.000-08:002008-11-25T07:28:00.000-08:00Do all the medieval plays that have Jews desecrati...Do all the medieval plays that have Jews desecrating the Eucharist count? Because that's immediately what I think of. Not sure to what extent they ever enact a sacrament, though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com