tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post7696699469766849631..comments2024-03-15T01:11:32.832-07:00Comments on Bardiac: Hiring Faculty of Color and the "Five Things" ArticleBardiachttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11846065504793800266noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post-4446584814586119412016-09-25T15:38:46.073-07:002016-09-25T15:38:46.073-07:00Thanks, very interesting!
Thanks, very interesting!<br />Bardiachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11846065504793800266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post-54933266293592798562016-09-24T09:50:21.384-07:002016-09-24T09:50:21.384-07:00My comment was going to say mostly what CC said ^^...My comment was going to say mostly what CC said ^^, so I'll mostly just say, yeah, what CC said, and add my experience with my (very few) major here in NW Arkansas who were black or brown. <br /><br />I encouraged all three of them to go on to graduate school, in one case telling the student specifically that the profession desperately needed black professors (which this student knew from their own experience, of being in our classroom and watching white professors teach literature by/about black people). <br /><br />In none of the cases did the students go on to graduate school (though I still have hopes in one case). The risk is too high, and the students all come from working class/relatively impoverished families, and families where the expectation is that you go to college to get a degree that will get you a job after four years -- not go to college to go to school for *more* years.<br /><br />My arguments that five or six more years of education, which might or might not get the a job somewhere halfway across the country, far from their families, for just a little more money than they could make working for this trucking company right here in town, did not cut much ice. :(<br />delagarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18197857250240640822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post-26873321261272667052016-09-23T16:35:00.259-07:002016-09-23T16:35:00.259-07:00This is probably a variation on the "pipeline...This is probably a variation on the "pipeline" argument, but I still think it's worth saying: getting a Ph.D., especially in the humanities (or any discipline in which a Ph.D. is primarily useful as a college-teaching credential) is a real gamble these days. I'd hesitate to encourage anyone to take that gamble, but least of all someone with larger undergraduate loans, and/or fewer family resources to fall back on (which obviously doesn't describe all potential Ph.D. candidates from historically-underrepresented groups, any more than it fails to describe all potential white Ph.D.-pursuers, but, given that race/ethnicity-associated inequality is an existing fact in this country, students of color are more likely to be more vulnerable economically). <br /><br />Granted, one probably won't have to borrow (as much?) money to pursue a Ph.D. as an M.B.A. or a J.D. or an M.D. (and the returns for those endeavors don't seem quite as guaranteed as they did in the early oughts), but it's still a gamble that involves considerable costs in time if not money, and no guarantees. That makes other options that lead more directly to stable, lucrative employment, such as a B.S. in a STEM field, very appealing to students who are both bright enough and versatile enough to consider both options (and that probably includes a lot of people who would also make good professors). Contingent Cassandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08161652083031423415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post-22227332836757540702016-09-23T15:37:49.905-07:002016-09-23T15:37:49.905-07:00If you weren't aware of it, I think you might ...If you weren't aware of it, I think you might find this blog useful https://writtenunwritten.wordpress.com/page/2/Spanish profhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04248530328973177920noreply@blogger.com