tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post4656112503986490883..comments2024-03-15T01:11:32.832-07:00Comments on Bardiac: Help, I've Lost my VowelsBardiachttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11846065504793800266noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post-41260242224544425552010-01-28T10:01:21.938-08:002010-01-28T10:01:21.938-08:00Thanks all, for the helpful words.
Dr. Virago, th...Thanks all, for the helpful words.<br /><br />Dr. Virago, that interactive thing is SO cool! I put a link to it on the computer thing for my Chaucer students AND sent it to my linguist friend. I spent way too much time clicking and hearing the vowels. Thanks!Bardiachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11846065504793800266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post-42082879142275408522010-01-27T14:04:44.034-08:002010-01-27T14:04:44.034-08:00Oh, and the difference between "father" ...Oh, and the difference between "father" and "Mann" is largely one of length -- as in actual quantity of time. The quality of the sound is pretty similar.Dr. Viragohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03960384082670286328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post-73655421174454215002010-01-27T14:02:53.300-08:002010-01-27T14:02:53.300-08:00Riverside gives IPA symbols, too, doesn't it? ...Riverside gives IPA symbols, too, doesn't it? If so, there's an interactive IPA chart with sound files here:<br /><br />http://web.uvic.ca/ling/resources/ipa/charts/IPAlab/IPAlab.htmDr. Viragohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03960384082670286328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post-44342450642301412972010-01-27T13:54:38.966-08:002010-01-27T13:54:38.966-08:00This is one of the few times when being from Scott...This is one of the few times when being from Scott County, Arkansas is actually helpful -- our vowels match Chaucer's in many places, to my students' delight.<br /><br />Also, much of Chaucer's lexicon is also ours: bait (for fill up, get fed up)and yonder, ask as axe; a number of others.<br /><br />"Read it out loud," I tell my students. "It'll make perfect sense then."<br /><br />Which it does, even with the pin/pen issue.delagarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18197857250240640822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post-56715357658105087182010-01-27T13:50:37.662-08:002010-01-27T13:50:37.662-08:00Pronunciation guides that use other words as refer...Pronunciation guides that use other words as reference are just so frustrating....as much no-fun was it was to learn the international phonetic alphabet, it does make other things easier. If people would use them, that is. And if people would use only the symbols I know, come to think of it. Last time I taught History of the English Language I spent an afternoon trying to figure out what a "closed e" was.<br /><br />All of which to say, I'm nodding along with this post (but also experiencing the same problem you're writing about, as I'm not sure I'm imagining the pronunciations for father and mann that you have!)susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12000470374101306070noreply@blogger.com