tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post4583201783149509830..comments2024-03-15T01:11:32.832-07:00Comments on Bardiac: Begin HeadbangingBardiachttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11846065504793800266noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post-7293007745335984432012-10-13T06:48:17.020-07:002012-10-13T06:48:17.020-07:00It doesn't really help, but it sometimes frame...It doesn't really help, but it sometimes frames it when I say that for a 4 credit course, they will have 12 hours of work including class time, and if they are taking a full load, their studies should be the equivalent of a full time job....That gets through to them.<br /><br />Of course most of them also have jobs, though not full time.Susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09716705206734059708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post-7761546825441849532012-10-12T10:56:13.799-07:002012-10-12T10:56:13.799-07:00what i meant to say is, these conversations aren&#...what i meant to say is, these conversations aren't that easy for either side. but they are necessary. you can cheerlead on ability at the same time you are delivering the "here is what you should be doing" scenario. and i think that is probably what you are doing. your students won't tell you, but this is a huge service to them.kathy a.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14479337952651746193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post-5991144661879410572012-10-12T10:48:21.507-07:002012-10-12T10:48:21.507-07:00this is how people learn and grow. really, it is....this is how people learn and grow. really, it is. <br /><br />competing in college is a transition for nearly everyone; they <i>all</i> did fine in high school, but are no longer the standouts. and being teenagers, they all thought they were invincible, brilliant, unstoppable. part of the reason is that their own view of the world has been so narrow; their own responsibilities limited; the measures of success so different than they are for independent grownups.<br /><br />every kid learning to walk is going to fall down, go boom, and cry. every kid learning to talk is going to say (enormously cute) wrong words. and so on. we learn by falling short; then we correct.<br /><br />chances are that a lot of their parents (and even teachers) have told them they have to work harder, but they don't believe that because they are so brilliant. you are delivering messages they probably heard before -- but with more precision (e.g., 2-3 hours of work out of class for an hour in class), and you are doing so without emotional baggage.<br /><br />they CAN do it. but what counts is actually doing it, not just having the ability.kathy a.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14479337952651746193noreply@blogger.com