tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post116544580085159526..comments2024-03-15T01:11:32.832-07:00Comments on Bardiac: Sad SearchBardiachttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11846065504793800266noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post-1165679938764113512006-12-09T07:58:00.000-08:002006-12-09T07:58:00.000-08:00I think what you said is great. I'd probably tell ...I think what you said is great. I'd probably tell them that I've screwed things up before and lived to tell about it, too. You fall down to learn to how to get up.Chaserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02124246378936489539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post-1165585777815443472006-12-08T05:49:00.000-08:002006-12-08T05:49:00.000-08:00So...My originally finding Bardiac a year ago whil...So...<BR/><BR/>My originally finding Bardiac a year ago whilst searching for Romanian Sweetbread Ensemble is ok then ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post-1165570735413191482006-12-08T01:38:00.000-08:002006-12-08T01:38:00.000-08:00I really liked your advise. I would probably add ...I really liked your advise. I would probably add the thought that, as college teachers, we aren't grading your life -- only your performance in one class. We recognize that, while it seems like we think our class is the only thing going on in your life, there really are challenges that students face which result in their not being able to pass the course. This doesn't make them bad people, nor does it make them bad students, it just makes them busy people who have to make choices about what they do on a daily basis.<BR/><BR/>I never had to re-take an undergraduate class, but I had to re-take two in grad school. In restrospect, I wasn't ready for them when I took them the first time....so I really needed to re-take them when I did.Inside the Philosophy Factoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12255753259090709877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post-1165543031703288042006-12-07T17:57:00.000-08:002006-12-07T17:57:00.000-08:00Ianqui, I think it's taking responsibility because...Ianqui, I think it's taking responsibility because it didn't search for something about how the professor's mean, won't accept late work, or whatever. You're totally right that the real responsibility comes with changing things.<BR/><BR/>But I can only do so much with a sad little search string!Bardiachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11846065504793800266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post-1165511800597082332006-12-07T09:16:00.000-08:002006-12-07T09:16:00.000-08:00What a great post! This is advice that so many st...What a great post! This is advice that so many students need, and yet the spectre of failure is often relegated to the mutterers' corners of our hallowed hallways.<BR/><BR/>I want to second your advice about talking to the professor. I've had students in precisely this position come to me, and FAR from hating them, I often feel optimistic for them, respectful of their courage in trying to rectify their mistakes. In more than one of those cases, I've had students come back to my class to retake it, and even when they haven't been superstars in the class, they have done well enough to pass, and earned my respect in buckling down to do so.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post-1165503499985091112006-12-07T06:58:00.000-08:002006-12-07T06:58:00.000-08:00Very eloquent reply. It could have been one of my ...Very eloquent reply. It could have been one of my students this term who posted that search--we'll see if that person follows through & takes responsibility. <BR/><BR/>I have remarkable variation in the maturity level of my first-year students this semester. Most are absolutely on the ball, but a few just don't seem to have made the transition from high school yet. <BR/><BR/>Oh, I had to retake a couple of classes in college, too. My explanation, when applying to grad school, "Hey, it was the 60s!" (though I phrased it more decorously).Joseph Duemerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07650314132179290321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post-1165502018516354672006-12-07T06:33:00.000-08:002006-12-07T06:33:00.000-08:00I don't think it necessarily means the student is ...I don't think it necessarily means the student is taking responsibility. There has to be follow-through and real change for that to be the case. How many times has a student come to you promising to do something, but then disappears off the face of the earth?Ianquihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03268223727887685830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post-1165501627140481762006-12-07T06:27:00.000-08:002006-12-07T06:27:00.000-08:00What a sad search string--but what a wise and comp...What a sad search string--but what a wise and compassionate reply you've composed! I'm going to bear it in mind when dealing with my own students in similar situations.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com