tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post114682838824075713..comments2024-03-15T01:11:32.832-07:00Comments on Bardiac: Wrist-Slitting Friday Poetry BloggingBardiachttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11846065504793800266noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post-1147383357825161582006-05-11T14:35:00.000-07:002006-05-11T14:35:00.000-07:00GrumpyABDAdjunce - glad to be of service. Jonson'...GrumpyABDAdjunce - glad to be of service. Jonson's just amazing.<BR/><BR/>CO - I agree about the "severed." But I bet this last line wasn't nearly so cliched when Jonson wrote it!<BR/><BR/>I'm always in tears trying to teach either of these two poems.Bardiachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11846065504793800266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post-1147362318205698232006-05-11T08:45:00.000-07:002006-05-11T08:45:00.000-07:00What a wonderful poem!I love the slicing visciousn...What a wonderful poem!<BR/><BR/>I love the slicing visciousness of the word "severed." Couldn't think of a better word to portray a parent's pain.<BR/><BR/>Then in contrast, close your eyes and say the last line of the poem. Was there ever a line so graceful (despite being rather cliched) in depicting the love of a father standing over a grave?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post-1147017895303636242006-05-07T09:04:00.000-07:002006-05-07T09:04:00.000-07:00Thanks for this, and for the reference to the poem...Thanks for this, and for the reference to the poem about his son, I wasn't aware of these poems and they are very useful to me.grumpyABDadjuncthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00996252815514179671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post-1146953652386771612006-05-06T15:14:00.000-07:002006-05-06T15:14:00.000-07:00You know, Medieval Woman, I think Jonson's one of ...You know, Medieval Woman, I think Jonson's one of the early modern folks who'd be just really fun to actually meet (or channel if you're psychic). And the two poems to his kids work wonderfully together in classes.<BR/><BR/>Hieronimo, I think that's a really good point about the way Jonson thinks of poetry.<BR/><BR/>Darren Reece, I'm glad to introduce you to one of the best poets of English; I hope you enjoy his other works, too!Bardiachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11846065504793800266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post-1146843170578472872006-05-05T08:32:00.000-07:002006-05-05T08:32:00.000-07:00It's a great poem indeed, as is the one for his so...It's a great poem indeed, as is the one for his son. And this one has some very interesting, and maybe slightly risky, Catholic resonances: "heaven's queen, (whose name she bears)"; "virgin train" ...<BR/><BR/>Another thought: Jonson called his son "Ben Jonson his best piece of poetry," but with his daughter he emphasizes "the safety of her innocence" and virginity; partly of course because she died in infancy, but also because he associates poetry with masculine birth and parthenogenesis, I think.Hieronimohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03809218002707778629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17974015.post-1146841636222919962006-05-05T08:07:00.000-07:002006-05-05T08:07:00.000-07:00I love this poem - I always teach it in my surveys...I love this poem - I always teach it in my surveys along with the poem to his son - Ben Jonson's a good egg...medieval womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17278854285443306227noreply@blogger.com